Sunday, 14 May 2023

Which is older ,Tamil or Sanskrit ?

My Quora Answer   

The debate on which language is older,Tamil or Sanskrit has been raging on for quite sometime.On one side of the debate is the poor ,disinterested Tamilians who do not bother to take pains to establish the supremacy of Tamil .On the other side is the people who support Sanskrit openly but never speak it even within their families.They are all hell bent on proving that Sanskrit is the oldest language in the world, at all costs come what may.Their commitment is admirable and their arsenal is powerful.They have command all over the world media,all centres of higher learning,historians,men who shape public opinion ,linguists and all that can be imagined of . In addition they have the unstinted support of the governments as well. The Government of India spends around 600 mn INR p.a.for promotion of the Sanskrit language that is not spoken by even 100000 people. With this powerful background,the Sanskrit supporters are in a position to manipulate any data or history anywhere in the world to their favor.

One example of their influence I can cite here.I visited the Singapore tourism centre where they screen a short welcome film on Singapore. When they talk about how the city got its name,I was surprised to hear them declare that Singapore is a Sanskrit name !The the Government of Singapore has been influenced by the Sanskrit supporters to believe so,I guess.Singapore is a clear Tamil name Singapuram meaning ‘the village of lion’.How can it be Sanskrit when Sanskrit cannot cross the shores of India as per the vedic rules? The brahmins only could speak Sanskrit and the brahmins who cross the shores loses his caste. Then how can it reach Singapore?Declaring the name as Sanskrit by a government only goes to prove the extent of power the Sanskrit supporters wield every where in the world.

In such a situation how can a debate on this issue go neutral and find the truth when both sides are not equally placed?

Despite all these,thanks to a group of Indo- European linguists who have settled the issue once for all in 2016 with some dramatically new findings on Sanskrit and its nature.They are of the view that the arguments that are based on sources liable to be manipulated are not to be trusted as the author could be biased .On the other hand, linguists basing their arguments on logic that cannot be manipulated cannot be accused of any language bias on their part .

Accordingly,here is the irrefutable proof based on clear logic, submitted by them.

  1. Existence of a separate people of native speakers is a condition precedent for any language to originate.E.g. Tamilians for Tamil, Chinese for Mandarin, British for English etc.Sanskrit does /did not have any such community of native speakers at any point of time in history.
  2. As per extant scripture rules, women and shudras are prohibited from speaking Sanskrit. If women are not permitted to speak, then naturally Sanskrit cannot qualify as a mother tongue.
  3. If a language does not qualify to be a mother tongue, it cannot become a spoken language, as the mothers only transmit the language to the infants.
  4. If a language is not a spoken language, then it follows that it cannot produce native speakers.
  5. If native speakers are not there, who will coin Sanskrit words? That can be done only by speakers whose mother tongue is a different language, like, say Tamil.
  6. Moreover, Sanskrit, as such has an inherent limitation in becoming a mass spoken language as Shudras are the masses in the Hindu social setup. If they are prohibited from speaking Sanskrit,Sanskrit can never become a mass spoken language.
  7. The very name Sanskrit itself means ‘ refined script ‘ and not' refined language ‘. That means obviously it is not a language but only an un spoken code.

Based on the fore-going irrefutable arguments, the group of linguists referred to have concluded that Sanskrit is not a language but only an unspoken code.Consequently,Sanskrit loses its claim as a language and is eliminated in the first round itself when it comes to a competition between languges,here Tamil and Sanskrit.

Tamil now stands unchallenged as the oldest language of the planet and the only language fulfilling all the 11 criteria required for a full classical language status.

Note:So far, the arguments advanced have not been effectively rebutted by any Sanskrit scholar and so it remains unchallenged. As an ardent Sanskrit lover myself, I am eagerly awaiting for an effective rebuttal from some one soon .

Monday, 2 August 2021

ஏன் திருமண பரிசு கொடுக்கும் போது 101,1001 போன்று கொடுக்கிறோம்?

 


திருமணம் போன்ற நல்ல காரியங்களுக்கு நாம் பரிசு கொடுக்கும் போது 101, 1001 போன்று தான் கொடுக்கிறோம். நான் அடிக்கடி சிந்தித்தது உண்டு, ஏன் அந்த ஒரு ரூபாய் கொசுரு சேர்க்கிறோம்? அதன் பின்னால் உள்ள தத்துவம் என்ன?

அதை குறித்து ஆராய்ச்சி செய்ததில், தமிழர்களின் அழகான ஒரு தத்துவம் வெளிவந்தது. பணம் சம்பந்தப்பட்ட எல்லா விடயங்களிலும் மிகவும் வளர்ச்சியடைந்த முறைகளையும் விழுமங்களை கொண்டிருந்தனர் தமிழர். ஆங்கில மொழியில் பணம் சம்பந்தமான எல்லா சொற்களும் தமிழில் இருந்து பிறந்தது என்பது வியப்புக்குரிய செய்தி. காசு, மானியம், பங்கு போன்ற சொற்களை எல்லாம் ஆங்கிலத்தில் உள்ளன. Cash, money, bank என்று ஆங்கிலத்தில் உள்ளன.

தமிழர்களிடையே கொடுக்கல் வாங்கல் எல்லாவற்றிலும் இரண்டு பக்கமும் லாபம் வரும்படியாக முறைகளை அமைத்திருந்தனர். நல்ல காரியங்களுக்கு 100+1 என்று கொடுப்பார்கள். பரிசுத்தொகை வாங்கியவர், 100 ஐ தன்னிடம் வைத்துக்கொண்டு, ஒரு ருபாயை திரும்ப கொடுத்துவிடுவார் ! ஆக, இந்தப் பண கொடுக்கல்-வாங்கலில் ,வாங்கியவருக்கு லாபம் ரூ 100,கொடுத்தவருக்கு லாபம் ரூ 1! லாபக் கணக்கு இல்லாமல் எந்த பண சம்பந்தப்பட்ட பரிவர்த்தனையும் தமிழரிடையே நடப்பதில்லை.

. இதன் பின்னால் இவ்வாறு ஒரு கொள்கை இருப்பது புரியாமல், கொடுத்த 101 ஐயும் வரவில் வைத்துவிட்டு, வெறுங்கையோடு வந்தவரை திருப்பி போக வைத்தார்கள்,தமிழ் நாட்டில் வாழும் தமிழரல்லாத சமூகத்தினர். பின்னர் அதுவே இப்போது பழக்கமாகி விட்டது.ஆக ,நல்லதொரு பழக்கம் அழிந்துவிட்டது. நாம் அதை திரும்பக் கொண்டுவர முயற்சிக்கலாம். நான் இதை என் வயதான ஒரு சித்தியிடம் இருந்து தான் கற்றேன். அவர்கள் என்னிடம் வாங்கிய பணம் திருப்பி தரும்போது, கட்டாயம் என்னிடமிருந்து ஒரு ரூபாய் கேட்டு வாங்கி விடுவார்கள்! 

Friday, 18 June 2021

Is Sanskrit everyone’s language?

 ‘Generally,questions on Sanskrit are asked exactly the opposite way of how it should have been asked !’ says an eminent Sanskrit lover Krishnamoorty .V.S ! According to him,this question should have been something like,’Is not Sanskrit no one’s language?’.

Now,why is he saying so ?What are his reasons?

  1. MYTH About origin of Sanskrit !

For any language to ORIGINATE,there must be a NATIVE SPEAKER COMMUNITY.The Indo-European family of languages have 449 member languages.Among these,Sanskrit is the ONLY language which has NO NATIVE SPEAKER community.Linguists raise the question,’How did Sanskrit originate without a native speaker community?’ As no satisfactory answer for this question is available,they conclude that Sanskrit is a made-up or constructed code and not a natural language.Sanskrrit has been made up by people whose mother-tongue is a non-Sanskrit language,like,say Tamil.

2.MYTH Sanskrit as a mother-tongue!

Hindu scriptures and traditions prohibited women from chanting Sanskrit( words or verses.

(vide 'Women are not allowed to study or chant the Vedas.' - the lowdown Women are not allowed to study or chant the Vedas. Orthodoxy still does not permit girls to receive Vedic initiation )

The Hindus

So,mothers being naturally women, were prohibited from chanting Sanskrit.Hence ,Sanskrit could not become a mother-tongue for the children.

Linguists point out that this is the main reason for the lack of a native speaker community for Sanskrit.

(Alvaro Hans's answer to What are the biggest linguistic myths in India? )

However,we cannot set aside the fact that according to Census 2001 figures,Sanskrit has been declared as mother-tongue by 14,000+ people in Mathur,Karnataka.


Friday, 14 May 2021

Is it true that Tamil culture is the flagship culture among all human cultures?

 

Let’s check it out.Here’s a list of salient features of Tamil culture that are unique to it:

Language& Literature

  • Tamil is the oldest spoken language of the world still surviving. Read Alvaro Hans's answer to What language is closest to the oldest language ever spoken?
  • All major languages in the world are related to Tamil ,in a way.Read Alvaro Hans's answer to What would be the first language if all languages were born from the Tower of Babel?
  • Tamil is the only language which has 3 independent branches each for Iyal(Prose),Isai(Music),Koothu(Drama).
  • Tamil is the only language which has 2 independent wings of literature Aham(Love life) and Puram(War life).
  • Tamil is the only language in the world which has classified its land into 5 types,namely: Kurinji(mountainous),Mullai(forest),Marudham(farm lands),Neithal(coastal),Palai(desert).
  • Tamil is the only language in the world which has the unique universal book for righteous living called Tirukural written 2500 years ago.
  • Tamil is the only language in the world which had 3 Sangams(Academy) for development of Tamil,over a pretty long period of more than 10,000 years,
  • Tamil is the only language in the world which claims that it originated from ‘within’ தம் +உள் Tham(within)+Ul(in).While all other languages are spoken from tongue,Tamil is believed to be spoken from the heart.
  • Tamil is the most logical/scientific language with least myths ruling word formation.E.g:

#Thalai(head)>Thalaivan(leader)>Thalayaya(prime)>Thalai sirantha(famous)

#Aan(male)=one who rules

#Penn(female)=one who cares

  • Tamil is the only language in the world which has the unique letter ழ with a special pronunciation.
  • Tamil is the only language in the world which is based on pure natural phonetics.Most of its core sounds may be made easily without any effort.
  • Tamil is the only language in the world which has words beginning with A அ for calling all family members who are elder to the baby learning Tamil. The baby learns these words fast as they are based on natural sounds.

Amma—Mother

Appa—-Father

Anna—Elder Brother

Akka—Elder Sister

Athai—Aunt

Anni—Anna’s wife

  • Tamil is the only language in the world which has no more than 3 or 4 letters for most of its core words.

Anbu அன்பு Love ,

Panbu பண்பு Character,

Soru சோறு Food ,

Paal பால் Milk ,

Thannee தண்ணீர் Water,

Thagamதாகம் Thirst ,

Odu ஓடுRun,

AaduஆடுDance ,

PaaduபாடுSing ,

PaduபடுLie(down) ,

Iruஇரு Sit

etc

  • ‘Tamil has the gravity of expression ,not found in any other language’ according to Russian Tamil scholar Alexander Dubiansky.Read “Tamil has gravity of expression not found in any language'' .One has to know Tamil intimately to know what he means.Such is the ease,beauty and soul appeal of Tamil expressions.A few examples may help:

#Look at how the simple word ‘Polama’(shall we go?)sounds in this ad !


In another ad,the husband presents a gold ring to his wife and the wife asks how he got it.Husband replies’Summa koduthanga!’சும்மா கொடுத்தாங்க !(they gave it free just like that!).Wife replies cutely but sarcastically ’Aama,summa kodupaanga!ஆமா !சும்மா கொடுப்பாங்க !’The beauty of this expression can be felt only if one understands Tamil.

# Melodious pair of words that are unique to Tamil makes expressions smooth,easy and good on ears.

‘I was so angry,I gave him left and right’in Tamil is,’Enakku ketta kobam,parthukka! Kanna pinnanu veluthu vaangitten!எனக்கு கெட்ட கோபம் ,பார்த்துக்க .கன்னா பின்னான்னு வெளுத்து வாங்கிட்டேன் ! (I had bad anger,you see!I washed him ‘kanna pinna’!) the phrase ‘Kanna pinna’sounds musical but with no meaning except being onomatopoeic .But the flow sounds so effective for the situation.

Mom warns her daughter,’Don’t bring a boy and tell me tthat I’m in love’ in Tamil sounds beautiful!”Kathal keethalnu yevanayavathu1kootittu vantha1,mavale,appa irukku unakku !’ காதல் கீதல்னு எவனையாவது கூட்டிட்டு வந்தே ,மவளே ,அப்போ இருக்கு உனக்கு ! Don’t miss the phrase ’Kaathal keethal’ which sounds melodious but means ‘love like’.

Some more such phrases

Sandai,sacharavu

Nalum,kizhmayuma

Piranthanalum,athuvuma

Pandiyana,kokka

Velai vetty

Pulu poochi

Etc.

Arts & Music

Tamil boasts of the most advanced forms of arts,performing arts and music.

Tamil Art forms:

Bharatha Natyam—The flagship dance of India

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Folk Dance

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Karagattam

Kummi

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Kolaattam

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Mayilaattam

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Folk Songs



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Parai Attam/Thappattam

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Many more!

Carnatic Music

The flagship music of India,Carnatic Music is of Tamil origin.

Tamil Dress forms

Men— Vetti

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Women— Saree

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Girls-Paavadai Thavani

Makes her look like a beautiful butterfly!

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Many more !

Tamil Music:

Linguists specialising in music trace most of the ‘core musical terminology’to Tamil roots.Here are a few examples:

Mettu(Tamil)>Metre

Thembu>Tempo

Attam>Alto

Abaranam>>Ornament

Etc.

Unlike other languages,Tamil has a separate branch for music called ‘Isai Tamil’. For example,languages like Hindi just sing some prose lines with a tune and make it as music.Tamil,however has separate rules like Ethugai,Monai etc. for composing songs.

Just listen to this Tamil song!



Every word ends with ‘thaan’sound but carries a different meaning!

Rich pun in Tamil.Take a look at this poem by Kalamegam.

காளமேகப்புலவர் பெண்ணிடம் போட்டப் புதிர்.........

பூநக்கி ஆறுகால்; புள்இனத்துக்கு ஒன்பதுகால்;
ஆனைக்கு கால் பதினேழ் ஆனதே; மானே! கேள்!

English Translation:

Cat has 6 legs:birds have 9 legs!

Elephant has 17 legs!

He goes to explain what he means by the pun words!

Poonakki=cat ,also Poo+Nakki =That which sucks flower i.e. honey bee!

  • Values Of Life

Tamil people have unique concepts/values for righteous living which no other culture has. Aram is a value package that regulates the Tamilian’s life.What is Aram? Please read ‘ARAM’- The unique Tamil prescription for a righteous and worthy living ! by Alvaro Hans on Alvaros Mind for an intro to the subject.

Money is NOT a driving force for the Tamilians

Since the Tamil life is driven by values,money has little role in Tamilian’s life.This does not mean that Tamilians were not advanced in matters of finance. In fact,all core English words in finance trace their origin to Tamil only.Please read Alvaro Hans's answer to What is the etymology of the word (money related) 'bank'? & Alvaro Hans's answer to The Tamils were the top traders of the ancient world. Why are they not figuring in the top billionaires of the world now? for more in this regard.

Relationships

Tamilians attach much importance to relationships within the family. Each relative has a specific title and role attached to it.

Title—Role—-Values learnt

Amma—Mother—-Love,Care

Appa—-Father—-Discipline,Survival,Earning money

Anna—Elder Brother—Second Appa

Akka—Elder Sister——Second Amma

Athan-Sister’s husband—Brother-like

Athai—Aunt————-Friendly lap,loving aunt

Anni—Anna’s wife—-Next to Amma

Thatha—Grand Father—Source of love,teaching values of the family

Patti—-Grand Mother—Big Mom,more liberal

Periamma-Mom’s elder sister—Large size Mom !

Chitti——-Mom’s younger sister—Liberal little Mom

Mama——Mom’s brother——Closest uncle

Rules for war engagement

Tamils are pioneers in framing ethical rules for war engagements.Few interesting rules are:

  • Pre war warning by a herald
  • War declaration by capturing the cattle of the enemy nation ‘Aanirai kavarthal’.
  • Women,children,Nobles not to be harmed.
  • Ambassadors should be treated with respect.
  • Soldiers should not be hit on the back.
  • Soldiers should not turn to their back as it is a sign of cowardice
  • Wounded should be treated
  • POW should be treated well.

Home Values

  • Hospitality —Every beggar should be fed with kanji food with pickle.
  • Thinnai——Every house had ‘thinnai’ for travellers to sleep overnight apart from free lodges called’chathiram’.
  • Respect elders especially Grandpa,Granny.

Tamil unique names

Tamil names are original and mostly logical with understandable meanings.A few examples:

Women:

Thean Mozhi(Honey like speech)

Maan Vizhi (Doe eyed)

Thendral(Breeze)

Men:

Mathi Maran(Wise man)

Eppodhum Vendran(Invincible)

Veerasami(God of boldness)

Affinity for Tamil in names

Tamil Selvan(Tamil wealth)

Tamil Magal(Tamil’s daughter)

Medicine

  • Siddha is the only system in the world based on the principle,’Unave marunthu;marunthe unavu’ meaning’Food is the medicine;medicine is food
  • Yoga,the well-known global form of exercise is of Tamil origin.

Alvaro Hans's answer to What does the word yoga mean in Sanskrit?

Other fields

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